Non-ignorant athlete/sports fan here- please read

[Earl]

[Sergey]

You know... I still say video games > sports. I wonder if Sportsguy92 minds. Well probably not.

[Fat Man]

You know... I still say video games > sports. I wonder if Sportsguy92 minds. Well probably not.

Video games rule!!! Video games are cool!!! Video games kick ass!

Sports just sucks . . . . . . . whatever!!!

[Sergey]

You know... I still say video games > sports. I wonder if Sportsguy92 minds. Well probably not.

Video games rule!!! Video games are cool!!! Video games kick ass!

Sports just sucks . . . . . . . whatever!!!

No contest video games > sports.

[SportsGuy92]

Don't say football is for retards, you need to have some intelligence, and not just if you're a coach; as a player you need to know all of your team's plays and if one person fails to execute, the whole team suffers.

Yes, yes, the typical argument that Polite24 has, unsuccessfully, attempted to throw at us. Football requires concentration. Football requires skill. Football requires fast thinking. What's not clicking with you and other sports fans like you is that as people who do not enjoy sports,
we simply do not care one way or the other how difficult it is. I certainly don't. I can think of a thousand physically demanding real world jobs that require physical and mental skill that are not connected to popular sports, that I can appreciate a lot more. The fact that something is popular does not make it exciting for everyone.

I know that you understand that football requires fast thinking, as well as most other people. It was just Fat Man's statement about it that pissed me off.

I just don't want a select few bad athletes or sports fans to be representative of all who like sports.

'Select few'. This is the very crux and nature of the problem with a Sports Fan's perception of how the real world works. Were you perhaps raised in a nicer school district and neighborhood like Polite24? I don't know where you're getting this idea that harrassing sports bullies and obnoxious sports fans represent some unmentionable vocal minority, and try to give the perception that many of these people aren't easily findable, because they hide in some magical 'cracks' in the wall, because they do not. The entire reason why we are annoyed by them is not due to one or two seriously traumatic incidents in life, the reason is because they are there, in every facet of life, transmitting their obnoxious behavior at the spiritual decibel level of a jet airliner. You can't refute this logic, Polite24 has already tried. Sports are popular, therefore it makes sense that sports fans would likely be (and are) everywhere.

1. I go to a private, Catholic school that puts up bullying a lot less than your typical public school, and therefore occurs less often. A physical assault that was unprovoked (think Hoffschneider in the Columbine story) would lead to a suspension at the bare minimum. The adminsistration has zero tolerance for any of that type of BS.

2. It's not just sports fans that take their hobby too seriously.

Sports can be mentally stimulating and challenging too

Try again. I already knew this, and so does the rest of the board. I am into physical fitness, and there are many activities that I find more challenging than sports. That isn't the problem.

You may know this, but greencom denied it.

The "boorish behavior of sports fans" has nothing to do with the fact that they like sports

No, their personality types tend to gravitate them toward sports, though, that can be proven. Still, "it has nothing to do with the fact that they like sports" doesn't matter at all. Because it does not excuse their poor behaviour towards both each other and the non sports fan.

Competitive people will always be gravitated toward sports, it's just that there are some people who take it too far, as with any other hobby you can think of.

"I don't know exactly who it was, but the next time you see them you need to apologize for it."

Okay, and? Did the jocks apologise? I'm betting they blew snot rockets at their coach, or laughed it off and either continued the behaviour, or found something else to pick on them about.

I'm not sure they apologized, but they never did it again.

The athletes I know will often make a remark about someone like "that kid's a faggot", and I will tell them, "he's not so bad" or "I know him and he's actually a decent guy". Most of the time, it is someone who does like sports too, only they are not part of the jock clique or have other interests besides sports.

So, which is it? The athletes making these remarks, or the sudden not-so-bad-not-part-of-the-jock-clique group of people you appear to invent in the second sentence? I'm betting my money on the athletes, and I am also betting money on the chances of your telling any of them "Hey he's not so bad" to be about as likely to influence them as flying elephants.

That's what I meant.

[Sergey]

Well I guess he doesn't care.

[greencom]

Yeah Sportsguy, I do deny sports is mentally challenging. I'm also into physical fitness, I'm soon to be 58 years old and can keep up with a lot of thirty somethings I know. I do have some physical handicaps but I keep close tabs on my conditioning and I have greatly benefited from it. Being six foot four and 205 pounds I've even played a few informal games of basketball with some friends last year and it was fun but hardly mentally challenging, physically challenging yes but any athletic person with an IQ above a lower primate can play it to a decent degree, just listen to a typical player being interviewed, you almost need subtitles. This, in my opinion goes for any organized team sport, it takes even less of a brain to sit and watch this juvenile activity and to actually think it has worth. Yeah I had fun playing Bball but I was a bit drunk and felt like engaging in some mindless activity, it amazes me that people watch this crap and pay millions of bucks to the knuckle dragging players. I get much more pleasure out of studying science and technology. The thrill of finally grasping and understanding a difficult new concept of science or secret of nature is a rush that sports can never deliver to any thinking person, but I guess rabid sports fans don't think much. This nation worships sports and makes heros out of athletes and society will pay an awful price for doing so. I hope I've offended someone who deserves it.
Love and Peace,
Greencom

[greencom]

I'm waiting Sportsguy.

Greencom

[Ray]

I think you scared him. Well done!

[Sergey]

He never responded to me! He is trying not to argue about the inevitable!

[Earl]

Hey, gang. SportsGuy92's family is having to share a single personal computer among them; so, he has limited access to a computer, which means that he is not always able to respond quickly. I know how it is. I'm having to share a computer with my wife and both of our daughters until the summer is over. I frequently get bumped off by someone who has to use the computer without delay.

[greencom]

I just wanted to give him a little shove when he's ready.
Greencom

[Earl]

Okay. I understand.

[Sergey]

He'll respond sooner or later.

[greencom]

I'm sure Sportsguy is a nice fellow, a lot nicer than most of the other pro-sports types, I just hope we can convey to him how non sports people see things and to give him another point of view. Maybe we can save his soul from the herd.

Greencom