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Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:32 pm
by Millhouse
Polite24 wrote:
Sergey wrote:

No player, if they save it up all their money will never be as rich as Bill Gates or close to him. So wait? You want to take out the purpose of an education? Fun? I see no fun, Band and Art are fun. Sports are only fun for brain dead jocks! So me wanting less violent schools is a bad thing? Last time I checked the majority of criminals were sports players. We're not off. Sports fanatics are and will never give me a straight up reason for anything. :wink:
What the hell? Much less than one percent of high school athletes go pro, and I don't know why you brought up Bill Gates?

High school sports, for again more than 99 percent of people aren't about going pro. They're about having fun doing something you like to do, and doing it competitively. They give a lot of students something to do after school and something to look forward to. They also can be an incentive to keep your grades up and do well in school. They also help develop social skills needed for the real world. Sports are far from the reason for violence in schools.

The majority of criminals are athletes? Where'd you get that fun fact from?

You see no fun in high school sports, but most people do, whether that be watching or playing it. High school sports are of no harm to anyone or anything. They do much, much more harm than good.

And here's where pro sports come in. What drives kids to love sports? Watching their favorite pro athletes growing up. Those kids then want to play sports, which in the end is how you get high school sports, which are a great thing.
I am beginning to think that you might possibly be a school sports coach, or on your way to becoming one, or you've been close to one.

I also like that you seem to have a magical statistic for everything you talk about, and that number is 99 percent.

But excuse me while I pinprick your delusional bubble here, 'bub. Sports are not needed to develop social skills. If anything, sports hinder and even damage social skills in the cases of children who do not play or perform as well as their peers. Simply bringing people together for a common purpose is all that is needed to develop social skills, period. You could do a dozen other things, some of them even athletic and teaching the kids good physical health, that aren't mentally unhealthy in their vicious competitiveness.

I've got news for you. For those more non-sports inclined children, barring them from participating in sports guarantees they'll fuck up and fail at least one class just so they don't have to endure P.E., which is really sad.

"They're about having fun doing something you like to do, and doing it competitively*."

Translation for non-sports fans: "They're about being thrown together to complete a task that only the physically strongest and physically coordinated will excel at, and doing it with the attitude of a fucking asshole towards you if you are not*."
Polite24 wrote:Sports are far from the reason for violence in schools.
No, sports aren't. But the attitude and some of the culture that comes with being into sports that the teachers and faculty are not combating IS a contributor.
Polite24 wrote:And here's where pro sports come in. What drives kids to love sports? Watching their favorite pro athletes growing up...
...and being on the news for rape, murder, drug possession, adultery, etc.
Polite24 wrote:Those kids then want to play sports, which in the end is how you get high school sports, which are a great thing.
Oh, good God. I am going to vomit now. You can defend your position all you like, but you still completely fail, utterly, at understanding the position that most people on this message forum and this site have. You either are missing the point entirely, or you are avoiding it on purpose and just attacking those who might or might not have trouble expressing their opinions as clearly as you do.

It's a one way street for you, either way, and either way you don't care what we think, I suspect.

Sports should be elective in school, period. That includes physical education, as long as the cultural nonsense that comes with professional sports continues to infect it.

Sports should be elective when you grow up and graduate, too. Both in playing and watching them. The only thing wrong I see with 'social skills' as you addressed earlier is the sports fan's uncanny ability to ostracize, insult and harass you for not liking sports, or their uncanny inability to see our position.

It all boils down to cultural nonsense, and commercialism. It just happens to work in your favor because you like sports.

Let's do an exercise here, Mr. Detroit Sports Fan. Think of some hobby or passtime that other people love to do, but that you hate, passionately, or at least have an extreme distaste for. But I would implore you, if you have the intelligence or the empathy (the latter of which I suspect is extremely challenging for you) to swing that judgmental pendulum back on yourself and imagine a world where you were the one being put down, harassed, beaten up, made to feel worthless, for not being good at things that you personally hate, just because that one thing that you hate HAPPENS TO BE POPULAR.

Are you getting my drift? No? Didn't think that you would. You disappoint me.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:17 pm
by Earl
Blackdog4444, I heartily applaud your comments. If you were my daughter, I'd be proud of you.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:25 pm
by Earl
Millhouse, you're certainly more articulate than I am. Keep up the good work! :D

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:42 pm
by Polite24
Millhouse wrote:
Polite24 wrote:
Sergey wrote:

No player, if they save it up all their money will never be as rich as Bill Gates or close to him. So wait? You want to take out the purpose of an education? Fun? I see no fun, Band and Art are fun. Sports are only fun for brain dead jocks! So me wanting less violent schools is a bad thing? Last time I checked the majority of criminals were sports players. We're not off. Sports fanatics are and will never give me a straight up reason for anything. :wink:
What the hell? Much less than one percent of high school athletes go pro, and I don't know why you brought up Bill Gates?

High school sports, for again more than 99 percent of people aren't about going pro. They're about having fun doing something you like to do, and doing it competitively. They give a lot of students something to do after school and something to look forward to. They also can be an incentive to keep your grades up and do well in school. They also help develop social skills needed for the real world. Sports are far from the reason for violence in schools.

The majority of criminals are athletes? Where'd you get that fun fact from?

You see no fun in high school sports, but most people do, whether that be watching or playing it. High school sports are of no harm to anyone or anything. They do much, much more harm than good.

And here's where pro sports come in. What drives kids to love sports? Watching their favorite pro athletes growing up. Those kids then want to play sports, which in the end is how you get high school sports, which are a great thing.
I am beginning to think that you might possibly be a school sports coach, or on your way to becoming one, or you've been close to one.

I also like that you seem to have a magical statistic for everything you talk about, and that number is 99 percent.

But excuse me while I pinprick your delusional bubble here, 'bub. Sports are not needed to develop social skills. If anything, sports hinder and even damage social skills in the cases of children who do not play or perform as well as their peers. Simply bringing people together for a common purpose is all that is needed to develop social skills, period. You could do a dozen other things, some of them even athletic and teaching the kids good physical health, that aren't mentally unhealthy in their vicious competitiveness.

I've got news for you. For those more non-sports inclined children, barring them from participating in sports guarantees they'll fuck up and fail at least one class just so they don't have to endure P.E., which is really sad.

"They're about having fun doing something you like to do, and doing it competitively*."

Translation for non-sports fans: "They're about being thrown together to complete a task that only the physically strongest and physically coordinated will excel at, and doing it with the attitude of a fucking asshole towards you if you are not*."
Polite24 wrote:Sports are far from the reason for violence in schools.
No, sports aren't. But the attitude and some of the culture that comes with being into sports that the teachers and faculty are not combating IS a contributor.
Polite24 wrote:And here's where pro sports come in. What drives kids to love sports? Watching their favorite pro athletes growing up...
...and being on the news for rape, murder, drug possession, adultery, etc.
Polite24 wrote:Those kids then want to play sports, which in the end is how you get high school sports, which are a great thing.
Oh, good God. I am going to vomit now. You can defend your position all you like, but you still completely fail, utterly, at understanding the position that most people on this message forum and this site have. You either are missing the point entirely, or you are avoiding it on purpose and just attacking those who might or might not have trouble expressing their opinions as clearly as you do.

It's a one way street for you, either way, and either way you don't care what we think, I suspect.

Sports should be elective in school, period. That includes physical education, as long as the cultural nonsense that comes with professional sports continues to infect it.

Sports should be elective when you grow up and graduate, too. Both in playing and watching them. The only thing wrong I see with 'social skills' as you addressed earlier is the sports fan's uncanny ability to ostracize, insult and harass you for not liking sports, or their uncanny inability to see our position.

It all boils down to cultural nonsense, and commercialism. It just happens to work in your favor because you like sports.

Let's do an exercise here, Mr. Detroit Sports Fan. Think of some hobby or passtime that other people love to do, but that you hate, passionately, or at least have an extreme distaste for. But I would implore you, if you have the intelligence or the empathy (the latter of which I suspect is extremely challenging for you) to swing that judgmental pendulum back on yourself and imagine a world where you were the one being put down, harassed, beaten up, made to feel worthless, for not being good at things that you personally hate, just because that one thing that you hate HAPPENS TO BE POPULAR.

Are you getting my drift? No? Didn't think that you would. You disappoint me.

First off, I will state non sports fans need to grow thicker skin. A little teasing every now and then(which is for the most part what you guys describe) because you aren't a very good athlete is not the end of the world. Stop acting like you guys went through some big time hardships because you weren't popular in school and you got made fun of a few times. Fat Man, I know your story, and you don't have to quote the above lines and tell me it again.

I will concede that athletics can either give someone a big time confidence boost or a big time confidence kill. However, that's the way it goes with many things in life. School, the workplace, etc.

You guys are uppity about how you're more intellectual than sports fans, how you're so much smarter, etc. So how does that make you any better than the sports fan who looks down upon you because you are a poor athlete?

While I understand the physical education thing and why it might be harmful to a select few, high school sports are a good thing. You see, kids who don't like sports don't have to play, or even go. Therefore, it has zero effect on them. It's beneficial to all of the student athletes that play and develop many skills that will help them later in life.

Funny how you bring athletes that rape, murder, and do drugs. Don't generalize or anything.

Sports are elective in high school. In most high schools(every one that I know of) you have to take one gym class that lasts one semester. One damn gym class, for twenty weeks or maybe even less than that...and you're really going to complain this much?

Also, most high schools offer weight training as an option instead of PE.

Your guys position? Most of your guys opinions are based off of high school experiences.

How is this fair? Just because you guys hate sports you think they should be removed? This idea of this website is extremely selfish.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:34 pm
by Sergey
Is it not selfish to mock those with a different opinion? Oh wait, that doesn't go in your book, but sports bores mocking non sports bores is ok, yes I see. One trimester? I think I'd have a break down in day of that worthless shit. And you sports fanatics question our hate towards that honest to God shit? Christ... I can not believe it...

I had P.E. today... :evil: and those monkey boys would not shut the hell up and stop stating the obvious! Are you monkey boys uncomprehending? Do you realize I understand? And those monkey boys couldn't follow the rules in basketball. I hate sports and I had to TTWSoAT #2, basketball! I need sympathy for doing that!

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:41 pm
by Earl
How many times do we have to tell you, Polite24? Most, if not all of us don't hate ball games; and we don't hate you, buddy. At least none of us wishes you ill, not even Fat Man. We hate certain attitudes and the mindset that are associated with certain (but not all) sports. And I don't get your claim that this website is selfish at all. Selfish in what way? We have no power or influence over others. This website has given a voice to people who previously had none. While I disagree with the name-calling by those on my side, I've actually been comforted by this website. What is so selfish about that? For the umpteenth time, like many other websites, this is a ranting board with a particular point of view. Like just about everyone else, haven't you ever been mad at your parents and griped about them to friends of yours and have made cutting remarks about your parents that you never would tell them to their faces? Are you saying that people who have any problem with the sports culture (including some former athletes, I might add), which seems to be downright sacred to so many people, should not have a website of their own where they can let off steam and share their views with each other? Despite the fact that you were banned once, you still have been allowed to express your views. How long do you think any of us would be allowed to express our views on a sports website before we would be banned permanently? I'll let you in on a little secret: You may not believe this; but all of the moderators, including the one who banned you and then regretted it because he had second thoughts, want you here! Did you know that? A Forum in which everyone agreed with everyone else would be boring. As I told you in the post in which I welcomed you back, Skul has publicly acknowledged that you weren't treated right by the regulars on the first day you posted in the Forum. Millhouse was saying that you've never disagreed with Samdaman on any specific issue. Including his rather twisted and ignorant views on what supposedly constitutes masculinity, I might add. I don't think any one of us goes around abusing individual people face to face; but can you imagine how Samdaman might be treating some of his classmates, even as you read this post right now? He has all the makings of a physically violent bully. I came to your defense when you were being piled on. As for the issue of mandatory PE, in an e-mail that he sent to me, Coach Tim McCord, who is one of the proponents of the PE4Life program, said that in some school districts the old PE of my generation is still around. And I'll point out again that the leading opponents of PE reform are not "sports haters," but are those sports fans who are unreasonable (as opposed to those who are reasonable and are open-minded about this issue) and those coaches whose only motivation really is just to promote sports and not meet the needs of those students who are the most in need of an effective physical fitness regimen.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:46 pm
by Smallari09
hey Sergey i think i know you :mrgreen: [size=150][/size]

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:46 pm
by Sergey
Earl wrote:How many times do we have to tell you, Polite24? Most, if not all of us don't hate ball games; and we don't hate you, buddy. At least none of us wishes you ill, not even Fat Man. We hate certain attitudes and the mindset that are associated with certain (but not all) sports. And I don't get your claim that this website is selfish at all. Selfish in what way? We have no power or influence over others. This website has given a voice to people who previously had none. While I don't agree with the name-calling by those on my side, I've actually been comforted by this website. What is so selfish about that? For the umpteenth time, like many other websites, this is a ranting board with a particular point of view. Like just about everyone else, haven't you ever been mad at your parents and griped about them to friends of yours and have made cutting remarks about your parents that you never would tell them to their faces? Are you saying that people who have any problem with the sports culture, which seems to be downright sacred to a lot of people, should not have a website of their own where they can let off steam and share their views with each other? Despite the fact that you were banned once, you still have been allowed to express your views. How long do you think any of us would be allowed to express our views on a sports website before we would be banned permanently? I'll let you in on a little secret: You may not believe this; but all of the moderators, including the one who banned you and then regretted it because he had second thoughts, want you here! Did you know that? A Forum in which everyone agreed with everyone else would be boring. As I told you in the post in which I welcomed you back, Skul has publicly acknowledged that you weren't treated right by the regulars on the first day you posted in the Forum. Millhouse was saying that you've never disagreed with Samdaman on any specific issue. Including his rather twisted and ignorant views on what supposedly constitutes masculinity, I might add. I don't think any one of us goes around abusing individual people face to face; but can you imagine how Samdaman might be treating some of his classmates, even as you read this post right now? He has all the makings of a physically violent bully. I came to your defense when you were being piled on. As for the issue of mandatory PE, in an e-mail that he sent to me, Coach Tim McCord, who is one of the proponents of the PE4Life program, said that in some school districts the old PE of my generation is still around; and I'll point out again that the leading opponents of PE reform are not "sports haters," but are those sports fans who are unreasonable (as opposed to those who are reasonable and are open-minded about this issue) and those coaches whose motivation really is just to promote sports and not meet the needs of those students who are the most in need of an effective physical fitness regimen.

Good point. I'd LOVE to see any sports forums not permanently ban you for even saying the words you are not good at football!

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:47 pm
by Sergey
Smallari09 wrote:hey Sergey i think i know you :mrgreen: [size=150][/size]

Who are you :shock: ?


Do I know you IRL?

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:14 am
by Millhouse
Polite24 wrote:First off, I will state non sports fans need to grow thicker skin.
Please. You go from defending it to becoming the victim here. Perhaps you need to follow this advice as well.

You addressed none of my points, especially the last one regarding role reversal. Instead you try and minimize and downplay the things we talk about here. As I said, why do you care? In fact, why are you even here? If we are truly a minority as you claim, then we should represent no real threat to you, nor to your precious sports, then what irks you enough or inspires you to come here and comment on it?
Polite24 wrote:A little teasing every now and then(which is for the most part what you guys describe) because you aren't a very good athlete is not the end of the world. Stop acting like you guys went through some big time hardships because you weren't popular in school and you got made fun of a few times. Fat Man, I know your story, and you don't have to quote the above lines and tell me it again.
This seems to be where your counter-arguments to this always end. "Oh, it's not that big of a deal."

1. Some people may or may not be overplaying their childhoods, but be that as it may, I don't know what white bread yuppie perfect school district you're deriving your examples from, but maybe you need to take a step back and visit some schools in impoverished or low to middle income areas.
2. This isn't just about our experiences at school. It's about our experiences as both children and adults, a lifetime's worth of putting up with nonsense.
3. This is about the rabid attitude that sports and commercialized sporting has brought to the very act of competitive sports.
4. Even if some of it is about our experiences at school, then it's obvious that we've made you notice that, so that means that it's not just an isolated occurrence, nor should it be downplayed as you're trying incessantly to do.
Polite24 wrote:I will concede that athletics can either give someone a big time confidence boost or a big time confidence kill. However, that's the way it goes with many things in life. School, the workplace, etc.
Generalization isn't going to work, at least not with me. I've never had a supervisor at work threaten me with violence just because I somehow 'dropped the ball' at being a team player. I've never had the shit beaten out of me at school by my peers for failing to correctly complete a quadratic equation.
Polite24 wrote:You guys are uppity about how you're more intellectual than sports fans, how you're so much smarter, etc. So how does that make you any better than the sports fan who looks down upon you because you are a poor athlete?
These are two separate statements, and have nothing to do with each other. So, let's separate them.

1. I have never said I was 'better' or 'more intellectual' than a sports fan, even the annoying ones. Just because someone possesses intelligence does not mean they are idiot-proof nor prone to acts of stupidity. As for the nature of the hard core sports fan, that evolves more around good, solid common sense, which seems to go out the window whenever one of these twats enters a sporting arena to witness a sporting event. Or hell, just yelling at the T.V. at home.
2. How does it make me better than the sports fan who looks down upon me because I am a poor athlete?
a.) I see you have finally resorted to namecalling and labeling.
b.) This has nothing to do with whether or not I think I am 'better' than a sports fan.
c.) You yourself are conceding that people DO look down upon other people for not being physically able to perform an athletic task as well as their peers. In competitive sports, and you should know this by your own failed logic -- failing to complete a task -- means that you have a competitive disadvantage if that person is 'stuck on a team' with you.
d.) You concede that people look down on other people due to inferior athletic ability in sports. Tell me, then, are you excusing this sort of behavior, just because you think a group of nobodies on an internet site making fun of sports thinks they're more 'intellectual' than sports fans?
Polite24 wrote:While I understand the physical education thing and why it might be harmful to a select few, high school sports are a good thing. You see, kids who don't like sports don't have to play, or even go. Therefore, it has zero effect on them. It's beneficial to all of the student athletes that play and develop many skills that will help them later in life.
Pardon me for calling bullshit on this one. I don't know what school district you're referring to, but if P.E. is truly a CHOICE and not a requirement, then kudos to that district. That isn't how the rest of the school districts I've seen work.
Polite24 wrote:Funny how you bring athletes that rape, murder, and do drugs. Don't generalize or anything.
I don't find anything funny about it. And just for the record, the very same media that touts and pushes the 'good news' about these very same sporting heroes on us is the same media that shoves it right in our faces and down our throats when another sports hero screws up. It's worse than hearing about what is going on with Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. The point is, the mass media figures a great deal into what makes sports annoying to 99 percent of us who hate sports.
Polite24 wrote:Sports are elective in high school. In most high schools(every one that I know of) you have to take one gym class that lasts one semester. One damn gym class, for twenty weeks or maybe even less than that...and you're really going to complain this much?
You're downplaying this, and again, what one yuppie school district are you basing this judgment upon? You're downplaying this because if you look around you on this forum, you will see people, young and old, some of them still in school, complaining about P.E.
Polite24 wrote:Also, most high schools offer weight training as an option instead of PE.
In high school, I was smart enough to choose to exercise on my own. I didn't need a school to tell me what kind of physical fitness I needed and didn't, thank you.
Polite24 wrote:Your guys position? Most of your guys opinions are based off of high school experiences.
I have news for you. Life is based on experience. The human race growing and bettering itself is based on what we learn from our own personal experience. Learning itself is based on experience. Experience is a wonderful thing.

So what is your opinion based off of? 99 percent? Because that's the only credible 'source' I've heard from you so far.

In fact, everyone on this board that has contributed a story has in my opinion provided a more credible source of information than you have for supporting your own arguments.

We need to grow thicker skin? I think you need to grow a better set of eyes and ears.
Polite24 wrote:How is this fair? Just because you guys hate sports you think they should be removed? This idea of this website is extremely selfish.
Everyone is selfish, since you want to get into generalizations. You're selfish in loving sports, and we are selfish in loathing sports. We, the loathers, are simply like-minded individuals talking about what bothers us. We don't seem to be bothering anyone doing it except you, and this particular time around with your last post, you seem almost agitated at the fact that we are who we are. You make no effort to try to understand our position, so why should we try and understand yours?

You bitch time and again about people going overboard by saying 'extreme' things like sports should be banned, but do you even stop to think about why they might be a little upset and hate sports so much? I don't know about you, but I think it's very clear in their words why they are this vexated.

Let me spell it out for you. For many in this world, sports is an integral part of their lives, and I think most of us here accept that. But the popularity of it, fueled by the mass media has turned it into a religion for many.

I say love what you want to love, believe what you want to believe, and do what you want to do. But don't force it down the throats of others.

I certainly am pro-fitness, and exercise regularly on my own, but I'd stop doing it the moment someone told me I HAD to do it, and forced me to do it. And told me I should even like doing it. This is a reflection on extreme competitive sports fans in childhood and adulthood.

The idea behind sports has nothing to do with 'getting a little exercise', as you like to downplay it. And by the way, the site's founders agree that exercise and fitness is great, so all you are doing by backing down into that posture is supporting the point of the website.

The idea behind sports that pisses most of us off that don't like it is the simple fact that we are being forced, or coerced into doing something we are not good at, or being ostracized, or (in my neighborhood) being physically assaulted publicly for failing at something we knew we weren't good at in the first place. That is how I look at sports, in any walk of life.

This is why I compare sports to organized religion.

If you truly like sports, that's great. I mean that with sincerety. But don't shove it down my throat and tell me I should like it just because you do. End of story.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:39 am
by Fat Man
OK Impolite24 - AKA - Detroitsportsbore08!!!

I'm gonna show ya were the proverbial bear shits in the buckwheat!!!
Polite24 wrote:First off, I will state non sports fans need to grow thicker skin. A little teasing every now and then(which is for the most part what you guys describe) because you aren't a very good athlete is not the end of the world. Stop acting like you guys went through some big time hardships because you weren't popular in school and you got made fun of a few times. Fat Man, I know your story, and you don't have to quote the above lines and tell me it again.
A thicker skin! Now, how many times have I heard that ol' cliché before?

Maybe we should also follow your example and grow a thicker skull as well.

You say, that we act like it's the "end of the world" when we were subjected to "a little teasing" but you monkey boys act like it's the end of the world just simply because some people say they don't like sports. That's when all you monkey-boys all go apocalyptic and make Armageddon in our schools!

Also, I'm not talking about a little verbal teasing. We can deal with that. If that truly was all there is to it, we could just simply ignore it.

But it often goes way beyond mere verbal teasing.

After Columbine, I Have read about how one high school student was thrown through a plate glass window by some monkey-boy, how another student was thrown down a flight of stairs, and about how the school officials did absolutely nothing about it.

Then, another student was riding home from school on his bicycle, when a bunch of drunken monkey-boys drove by in their car at a high speed, and threw a beer bottle at the student riding his bike, hitting him in the back of his head. Another student riding home on his bicycle was bumped off the road by a car full of monkey-boys, and he was knocked into the ditch on the side of the road.

These were incidents that I have read about shortly after Columbine.

The Internet was a-buzz with one example after another, and a lot of stories were brought out into the open that had been covered up for years.

So, I'm not telling you my story now. I'm speaking out for those who are not able to tell their story, because some of them have even been killed by you vicious monkey-boys!!!
I will concede that athletics can either give someone a big time confidence boost or a big time confidence kill. However, that's the way it goes with many things in life. School, the workplace, etc.
Excuse me, but in the work place, people don't get thrown through plate glass windows or thrown down flights of stairs, or get run off the road while driving home from work, or having a beer bottle crashing through the windshield.

That only happens in our high schools.

Now, we all know, that people do get verbally harassed in the work place, but if one employee were to physically assault another, he/she would get fired, and if the employer were to physically assault an employee, a lawsuit would be filed against the company where he/she had been employed.

Our high schools are actually more dangerous than the workplace. It is actually safer to be a construction worker, walking on a narrow beam a hundred stories above the ground, than it is for a non-athletic kid going to high school.

So, what is happening in our schools in not merely a "big time confidence kill" but has the potential to be a big time kill, kill! And I mean, a physical body kill, as in croaking somebody off!
You guys are uppity about how you're more intellectual than sports fans, how you're so much smarter, etc. So how does that make you any better than the sports fan who looks down upon you because you are a poor athlete?
We have not been merely looked down on, but we have actually been physically beaten down!

Those of us who were the "nerds and geeks" in school, not only did we get verbally teased and put down because we didn't like sports, we got physically beaten down.

Yes, we do look down on sports fans, because we have a very good reason to look down on sports fans and the jocks, because, we are in fact, more intellectual than you sports fans and all of you drooling, slobbering, monkey-boys.

But you will notice, that we nerds and geeks, we do not go around beating up on all of you monkey-boys just simply because you don't like playing chess, or listening to classical music, or reading books, or studying science and math, or doing art and music. We don't go around beating up on people just simply because they don't like the same things that we enjoy doing.

Ah! But you slobbering, drooling, monkey-boys, if anyone merely says that he doesn't like sports, you all don't just merely tease and verbally harass, you also go ballistic and physically assault those who don't like sports.

Please explain this to me . . . . .

Why is it, that we nerds and geeks don't go around beating up on people, or verbally harassing them if they don't like science and math, or art and music?

And why is it, that you sports fans and monkey boys do go around beating up on people if they don't like sports?

Please do explain that one to me!

Do tell, prey tell!!!
While I understand the physical education thing and why it might be harmful to a select few, high school sports are a good thing. You see, kids who don't like sports don't have to play, or even go. Therefore, it has zero effect on them. It's beneficial to all of the student athletes that play and develop many skills that will help them later in life.
When I was in school, PE was mandatory, and you continue to gloss over the situation with the slime drooling from your monkey-boy mouth, saying that PE has zero effect on those "select few" who are non-athletic. Anything that is mandatory is going to have an effect on those who do not wish to participate.

PE might have been a good thing to you monkey-boys, but it was a bad thing for those of us who were not athletes.

Being a Nazi might have been a good thing for those who were members of the Nazi Party, but it was not a very good thing for over 6 million Jews and millions of other people.

And please! Do tell me how sports are are beneficial to the student athletes, and how it helps them to develop many skills that will help them later in life!

From what I can see, most student athletes can't even read and write beyond the 5th grade level after they graduate from high school. If they are not able to pursue a career in sports, then the only thing they are able to do is bag groceries in a super market, because they lack the skills to do anything else.

So again, please tell me how sports helps student athletes to develop skills that will be useful to them in later life.

Please! Do tell, pray tell!!!
Funny how you bring athletes that rape, murder, and do drugs. Don't generalize or anything.
Can you say, O J Simpson???

And there is a long extensive list of many other monkey-boys doing drugs, rape, and murder!
Sports are elective in high school. In most high schools(every one that I know of) you have to take one gym class that lasts one semester. One damn gym class, for twenty weeks or maybe even less than that...and you're really going to complain this much?
When I was in high school, PE was mandatory, and even if it was still for just one lousy semester, for those of us who were not athletes, PE ruined our lives!
Also, most high schools offer weight training as an option instead of PE.
Well, that's good to know! But there are still many schools as of yet, that don't offer that option, and none of the schools offered that option when I was in high school, so for me, its about 40 years too fucking late for me to derive any benefit from that!
Your guys position? Most of your guys opinions are based off of high school experiences.

How is this fair? Just because you guys hate sports you think they should be removed? This idea of this website is extremely selfish.
Well, when I was in high school, science and math was removed.

As I have said before (God only knows how many times) and I shall say it again, and again, and again, if need be, until it finally sinks through that thick lead-lined skull of yours!

When I was in high school, my science teacher was also the school's FOOLS BALL coach, and during FOOLS BALL season, he was too monkey-fucking busy, coaching his team or pre-frontally lobotomized monkey-boys, to be teaching in my science class.

So instead, he would set up a movie projector, and leave us all sitting in the dark, watching a bunch of stupid cartoons!

Therefore, in my school, academics was removed, and we were only taught how to fold paper footballs!

So, as long as academics have been removed, then PE should also be removed.

You say we are selfish! Oh, you're absolutely right!

We selfishly want to study science and math, so that we may go on to collage, and major in science, and selfishly pursue a career in science, that we may selfishly search for a cure for diabetes and cancer, and selfishly search for alternative sources of energy, and that we may selfishly benefit the entire human race.

Ah! But you monkey-boys aren't selfish! Oh no!

You so generously want to get paid millions of dollars just to kick a hunk of pig-skin over an iron post, and generously be allowed to park your $100,000 dollar Hummers all day long in a 15 minute parking zone and not have to worry about getting a ticket, and to oh so generously have your way with our sisters and daughters!

Oh! Please do forgive me, oh great and generous one!

Please do forgive me for being a greedy, and selfish, fat little pig!!!

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:16 pm
by Earl
For an example of sports-related "harmless teasing," go to the website http://www.bullypolice.org/bulliesRULE.html and scroll down to "Nominating - Forsyth Central High School - Forsyth County, GA." I found this item in a Google search in less than two minutes. I'm sure there are many others like it. If you (editorially speaking) thought that all school principals are opposed to bullying, you're wrong. Speaking as the father of two children, how would you feel if you had a son or daughter enrolled at this high school? I'd seriously consider homeschooling.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:46 pm
by Lewis
Earl wrote:For an example of sports-related "harmless teasing," go to the website http://www.bullypolice.org/bulliesRULE.html and scroll down to "Nominating - Forsyth Central High School - Forsyth County, GA." I found this item in a Google search in less than two minutes. I'm sure there are many others like it. If you (editorially speaking) thought that all school principals are opposed to bullying, you're wrong. Speaking as the father of two children, how would you feel if you had a son or daughter enrolled at this high school? I'd seriously consider homeschooling.
That is evil. How can people do somethink like that, they should of been expelled or arrested for attempted murder. That poor student.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:01 pm
by Earl
The parents should sue. But perhaps they can't afford to pay for adequate legal representation. I don't know.

Re: What is Worse then Sports: Sports Series

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:53 pm
by Sergey
Lewis wrote:
Earl wrote:For an example of sports-related "harmless teasing," go to the website http://www.bullypolice.org/bulliesRULE.html and scroll down to "Nominating - Forsyth Central High School - Forsyth County, GA." I found this item in a Google search in less than two minutes. I'm sure there are many others like it. If you (editorially speaking) thought that all school principals are opposed to bullying, you're wrong. Speaking as the father of two children, how would you feel if you had a son or daughter enrolled at this high school? I'd seriously consider homeschooling.
That is evil. How can people do somethink like that, they should of been expelled or arrested for attempted murder. That poor student.

I would literally shove an .32 caliber revolver up their head. Tell them I'm going to kill them now and their parents for that incident. I'll even spit in their eye before pulling the trigger.