International I Hate Sports Club

dickfilthy wrote:

SportsGuy92 wrote: Think about this: if the NBA is really not the best basketball league, why do the best players from everywhere (including Australia) try to play in it? Why is it that Michael Jordan is a global icon as famous as any celebrity or politician, instead of random Australian Basketball League player guy who'd never make it in the NBA?

Sportsguy, I really don't think you can imagine how incredibly dull that kind of talk is to a sports hater. To a sports hater, that kind of talk is like listening to a couple of 5 year old kids discussing who is better - Batman or Superman. Sports talk is really just the grown ups version of that.

There must be thousands of sporting websites out there where you can have such conversations, and you really need to go to them if you like having such conversations.

I'm not trying to bore you with what I'm saying, it was about how you called Polite24 a racist for saying that the NBA is better than Australia's basketball league. Why don't you understand that? You go around calling me and Polite24 a retard and accuse him of having ADD and shit and then you can't realize what someone else was trying to say. You need to realize that you're just a know it all, arrogant piece of shit as bad or as worse as any sports fan who has been on this website. I don't know if this is the way you act in real life but if I were to ever meet you and you said the kind of things you said here to me things would probably start to get physical.

SportsGuy92 wrote:

dickfilthy wrote:

SportsGuy92 wrote: Think about this: if the NBA is really not the best basketball league, why do the best players from everywhere (including Australia) try to play in it? Why is it that Michael Jordan is a global icon as famous as any celebrity or politician, instead of random Australian Basketball League player guy who'd never make it in the NBA?

Sportsguy, I really don't think you can imagine how incredibly dull that kind of talk is to a sports hater. To a sports hater, that kind of talk is like listening to a couple of 5 year old kids discussing who is better - Batman or Superman. Sports talk is really just the grown ups version of that.

There must be thousands of sporting websites out there where you can have such conversations, and you really need to go to them if you like having such conversations.

I'm not trying to bore you with what I'm saying, it was about how . . . . . . .

HO HUM! BORING!

I almost fell asleep and my face hit the keyboard and woke me up again.

SportsGuy92 wrote:I'm not trying to bore you with what I'm saying, it was about how you called Polite24 a racist for saying that the NBA is better than Australia's basketball league. Why don't you understand that? You go around calling me and Polite24 a retard and accuse him of having ADD and shit and then you can't realize what someone else was trying to say. You need to realize that you're just a know it all, arrogant piece of shit as bad or as worse as any sports fan who has been on this website. I don't know if this is the way you act in real life but if I were to ever meet you and you said the kind of things you said here to me things would probably start to get physical.

I donâ??t believe that either SportsGuy92 or Polite24 is a racist or that they have belittled the people of Australia, which has always been a great friend of the United States. In fact, Iâ??ve never heard of any American belittling the Australians. I agree with Sergey that thereâ??s been way too much flaming going on. With only occasional lapses on their part (which is perfectly understandable), Polite and SportsGuy have actually been rather restrained in their responses to all the name-calling to which they have been subjected. They are not like Samdaman, SpeedofLeicht, and the others. I dare say that theyâ??re decent kids, which doesnâ??t mean that I agree with everything they say. When you use such insults against posters like Polite and SportsGuy, the effectiveness of your language is watered down; and you have nothing left to adequately describe someone who really is a hateful jerk.

On the other hand, SportsGuy and Polite need to recognize that this website was set up for sports haters and that this forum is a rant board. That is the purpose of this website. This website is like political websites. â??Fair and balancedâ? is just not going to happen. For example, political conservatives should not expect liberal websites to give a fair hearing to conservatism and conservatives (and vice versa). In the same way, we donâ??t expect to go to sports websites and talk about how boring sports are to us or how much we dislike them.

This website is one of those few places where people who donâ??t like sports can express themselves in a setting that is supportive. I completely understand dickfilthyâ??s resentment about arguing with someone about sports at a website that was set up for people who either actively dislike or are just not interested in sports. But this website is open to the public. Anyone can join the forum, and some (possibly the majority) of the other â??anti-sportsâ? members want sports fans to participate in the forum. Some would even welcome a return by Samdaman just so they could fight with him. So, you might say that leaves us between the proverbial rock and the hard place.


We need a little humor now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dKiaRUKgmA

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Thankyou for your wisdom Earl, and as far as the language part goes, please remember these two things -
(1): I have never used the F*** word on here, despite a barrage of it coming my way, and,
(2): don't forget, it's the sports bores that have initiated the insults towards me, and I have only ever been defending myself here.

SportsGuy92 wrote: you called Polite24 a racist for saying that the NBA is better than Australia's basketball league. Why don't you understand that?

why? Why? WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, DUMMY. That's why. I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY EXPLAINED WHAT HAPPENED BACK ON PAGE 5, SO NOW YOU ARE JUST GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES. HERE, TRY AGAIN -

dickfilthy wrote: BASICALLY, YOU USED SPORT AS A VEHICLE TO RACIALLY INSULT ME.

O.K., so lets analyse this. Your very first ever statement to me was -

Detroitsportsfan08 wrote:the NBL is nowhere near one of the best basketball leagues.

There are 2 elements to that statement of yours -

Element (a): Demeaning Australians (by demeaning Australian basketball), and,
Element (b): Use of a sporting reference (to demean Australians).

The thing is you see, if the sporting reference turned out to be true, then your very first ever statement to me would simply have been a statement of fact, and I wouldn't have called you a racist. But I asked you - the self proclaimed expert on international basketball - to prove it to me. But you completely failed to prove anything. So therefore you just ended up demeaning Australians based on your own warped view of the world.

I asked you to prove the sporting reference element of your very first statement to me by way of MY very first ever statement to YOU, which was actually the question -

dickfilthy wrote:How do you even know that?

1: But you completely failed to prove it. The "proof" you used, and continue to use to this day, is the number of Australians in the NBA. But I have shown how the number of Australians is actually OVER represented in the NBA, WHICH COMPLETELY DEBUNKS YOUR SO CALLED "PROOF".

2: Therefore your negative statement about Australian basketball WAS NOT A PROVEN FACT, BUT MERELY ONLY YOUR OPINION.

3: Therefore the sporting element of your first statement to me was invalid and irrelevant.

4: Therefore the only remaining element of your first statement to me was the demeaning Australians part of it.

5: Therefore you simply demeaned Australians, and nothing else. You simply revealed YOUR NEGATIVE OPINION OF AUSTRALIANS and nothing else.

6: THEREFORE THAT WAS A RACIALLY INSULTING STATEMENT.

7: THEREFORE UP YOURS.

SO IT WASN'T ACTUALLY ABOUT BASKETBALL. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BASKETBALL PART OF IT. IT WAS ABOUT THE INSULT THAT HE STARTED. GET IT?

SportsGuy92 wrote:You go around calling me and Polite24 a retard and accuse him of having ADD and shit

YEAH - BECAUSE YOU'S STARTED WITH THE INSULTS FIRST, SO THAT GIVES ME A LICENSE TO INSULT YOU'S BACK IN RETURN. GET IT?

SportsGuy92 wrote:things would probably start to get physical.

AND LIKEWISE, IF YOU WERE TO START SOMETHING PHYSICAL, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE ME A LICENSE TO GET PHYSICAL BACK IN RETURN. GET IT?





AND THE THING IS YOU SEE, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER ANY MORE WHICH OUT OF THE NBL OR NBA IS BETTER OR WORSE, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT DETROIT/POLUTE24 WAS INSULTING ABOUT IT, AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT NOW.

dickfithy-

I know that insults and being insulted are part of arguments like these. It's just that some of yours are totally off base.

dickfilthy wrote:Thankyou for your wisdom Earl, and as far as the language part goes, please remember these two things -
(1): I have never used the F*** word on here, despite a barrage of it coming my way, and,
(2): don't forget, it's the sports bores that have initiated the insults towards me, and I have only ever been defending myself here.

Dickfilthy, I do appreciate your compliment. Thank you very much.

Regarding your two observations ...
(1) Most of the members use bad language at one time or another.
(2) Perhaps Iâ??ve not read all the posts of this topic carefully enough, but it seems to me that you first felt insulted when Polite24 appeared to demean your country. Both SportsGuy92 and Polite24 have said that was not their intent and that they did not mean to insult you. Although you may not believe them, I think you should accept their claims at face value. I have reason to trust them as being sincere. The way I see it, there are two kinds of conflict. There is conflict that is unavoidable because some moral principle is involved, and there is conflict that is needless and does no good. Perhaps youâ??ve misunderstood them. Thatâ??s easy to do at a website. At another forum earlier this year, I went on the offensive and bitterly denounced one of the other posters after possibly misconstruing one of his comments. I hope I haven't discouraged or irritated you. I'm just trying to help out in my dopey but sincere sort of way.

As a moderator in this forum, Iâ??d like to make a comment for all the members. If you have a personal resentment against another member, please seriously consider the possibility of trying to resolve the conflict with him (or her) by using the PM feature or the e-mail button (if one is available). You're in a unique setting here that is different from dealing with someone at school or on the job. With privacy you donâ??t have the problem of feeling forced into some kind of inhibitory role. You actually feel freer to honestly communicate with that person. Iâ??ve found several new friends of my generation at this website by using the PM feature.

dickfilthy is a fucking idiot, plain and simple. He has changed what he says his true meaning in this thread about 5 times now.

Excuse me, children. I've got a headache. (For anyone reading this who doesn't get it, this is good-natured ribbing, folks! )

Polite24 wrote:dickfilthy is a fucking idiot, plain and simple. He has changed what he says his true meaning in this thread about 5 times now.

He makes WAYYYYY more sense than you. Just admit he's right and we'll all agree to move on.

Of course he's going to make more sense to you...

He's been trying to prove something I haven't even been disputing. Australia is a good basketball country for the amount of people they have, but in the big picture they're irrelevant as a basketball country and the fact their league folded means very little.

^ THAT is all I've been trying to say this whole time. Dickfilthy proceeded to give me facts that had absolutely no relevance to what I was saying and then tried to say I was a racist and that I was saying America is a better country.

Have you said hi to Sojin yet?

So, why do you even care about what anyone here says about sports? Why is it such a big deal to you? Unlike many in the sports crowd, do we have power and influence over others? How does any comment made in this forum affect you personally? Someone who was secure in himself would just shrug it off and say, "Oh, well. To each his own." Whatever happened to the "Live and let live" philosophy? Ever hear of freedom of speech? Who invited you to this website? Did anyone force you to come here? If you are offended by views expressed at this website, why don't you just go visit a sports website instead, of which there are many to choose from? There are websites such as those for racists and anti-Semites and the American Civil Liberties Union which represent viewpoints that I find to be repugnant, but I don't waste my time visiting them. Why do you waste your time visiting this website? If you were civil like Polite24 and SportsGuy92, I wouldn't be so pointed in my comments to you.

rcfreak339 wrote:Im going to talk about the original post. I still don't see how this is good news, to anyone. If you don't like it just turn it the hell off. People are losing jobs, money and a business. People and owners are suffering. You just want it gone because of what some asshole jocks did to you in highschool, and yes. The NBA will NOT go anywhere. Plan and simple.
-Cody "God, Family,University of Kentucky!

WRONG. Basketball attendance is declining everywhere.

DECLINING BASKETBALL ATTENDANCE IN TACOMA HAS OFFICIALS CONCERNED
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-108205995.html

UTAH HOOP ATTENDANCE DECLINING!
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/6001 ... ining.html

NBA ATTENDANCE PROBLEM IS OBVIOUS
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/fs15.htm