Fat Man Needs to go, play sports, and get some damn exercise

[Earl]

Well, I guess I'll wade into this mess to give my proverbial two cents' worth.

Fit Man, you're a welcome relief (at least for now) from all the spammers I've had to ban and all of the spam I've had to delete for I don't know how long.  When I first saw your username, I assumed you were actually a genuine new member, although  the thought crossed my mind that you could be a spammer hawking exercise equipment.

First, it probably would be helpful for me to briefly give some background info about myself so wrong assumptions about me won't be made.  I'm a happily married (for over 30 years) 61-year-old man with two daughters.  I never had any interest in sports, not even when I was a kid.  However, since the summer of 2007, I've been working out at a local health club.  I've even hired what has turned out to be a succession of personal trainers (only four) to work with me on a bodybuilding program.  On "off" days I take a brisk, nonstop hour-long walk in the neighborhood.  Since I have late onset type II diabetes, I exercise to help control my blood sugar levels.

Although I never had an interest in sports when I was a kid, I was ashamed of being physically weak and having an undeveloped physique.  So, I'm on a bodybuilding program to feel better about myself; but I'm not engaged upon some macho quest to prove that I'm supposedly more "manly" than nonathletic guys.  What other guys do or don't do with their bodies is none of my business, as far as I'm concerned.  The ridicule and social stigmatization of fat people is clearly wrong from a moral standpoint; and, no, I've never been overweight in my life.  Incidentally, I've noticed that Richard Simmons -- who, as we all know, is an advocate of slimming down, having been overweight himself when he was a kid -- condemns the ridicule of fat people. 

We live in a society that judges people according to their physical appearance.  That's clearly superficial and wrong.  I once came across an interesting picture in a book about World War II.  The photograph showed a group of young men who had assembled in military array.  Interestingly enough, they were all shirtless.  Each one of them had great physiques.  There was only a slight problem:  They were all German Nazi SS officers.

What I'm concerned about is a particular sports subculture that is associated with (but not inherently a part of) extremely popular school sports, certainly not all sports.  I almost don't know where to begin; so, I'll just ramble ...

I challenge the notion that sports is the only way to get into shape.  Fit Man, there are guys who have attained high levels of physical fitness who have never participated in sports.  The truth is that a sport is a physical contest, not an exercise program.  Forcing nonathletic kids who aren't interested in sports to participate in competitive games is downright foolish and stupid and does not encourage them to become physically active. 

I ought to know just from my own personal experience.  When I was a boy, all students were forced to take "sports only" P.E. classes that offered no exercise programs and often didn't even offer any instruction in sports.  The assumption seems to have been made that all boys aspired to be athletes.  When I started the fourth grade in the fall of 1960, the unsupervised recess period that I had had no problem with was replaced by a form of mandatory P.E. without the gym.  Of course, in junior high I was exposed to gym P.E., which I came to dread every single school day.  In high school I continued to take band so I wouldn't have to take P.E., which I heard was even more hellish for nonathletic boys than the junior-high version was.  I'm talking institutionalized bullying.  The physical education establishment has a shameful history of the way scrawny boys and fat boys were mistreated in classes that were essentially useless to them.  When I started mandatory "sports only" P.E., I was weak and scrawny.  When my last class of 8th-grade P.E. had mercifully ended, I was ... weak and scrawny.

My childhood mandatory P.E. experience and my health-club experience have been as different as night and day.  All the personal trainers at my health club respect me because of my dedication to bodybuilding.  I know what works and what doesn't work for nonathletic boys from my own personal experience.

Nonathletic boys who have no interest in sports don't have an easy time growing up in a sports-saturated culture. Before they even reach their teens, they're told they're "unmanly" for having no interest in sports. This self-hatred can have a negative impact later in their lives if it's internalized.  There's abundant evidence that such boys are likely to be bullied.  The former professional football player Joe Ehrmann has said that sports have become the new national religion of the United States.  I dare say that this "new" religion is not always tolerant.

I could say more about my own views, but this is all I'll say about them now.  To summarize, I've never denigrated anyone for participating in a sport.  Merely playing a ball game alone does not turn a guy into a jerk, but the culture can make a difference.  My best friend, who is a deacon of my congregation, played football in high school.  A dedicated Christian, he's a very gentle, warm-hearted guy who has never bullied anyone.  In contrast, a former university football player with whom I had the misfortune to grow up was an arrogant bully.  He once beat up a friend of mine who was so short that he was having to take injections of growth hormone.  The two football players subscribed to different value systems.

This brings up a particular question.  All my life I've heard people blather nonsense such as "Athletics builds character," "Sports builds character," "Football builds characfter"; yet, Fit Man, you acknowledge that some athletes are -- Since I'm a Christian, I won't use the A-word.  I'll just say "rectal orifices." If sports build character, why are some "jocks" jerks?

Fit Man, I'm surprised you didn't notice a particular outrageous fact about the mandatory P.E. of our generation to which Fat Man alluded.  Even though he was physically handicapped, he wasn't exempt from P.E.!  This forum has another member of our generation who hasn't posted recently who also was handicapped (by a congenital lack of depth perception) but was still required to take P.E.  No one gave him a pass for something over which he had no control.  When he finally retaliated against an athlete classmate who had been bullying him constantly by slamming his head against a concrete wall, guess whom the coach punished?  Why, the nonathlete, of course!  (But, incidentally, the bullying stopped.)

I'd still have more to say about my own observations, but I need to make observations about some of your specific comments. 

No wonder Fat Man hates sports so much: he's fat and simply un-athletic.

You mean there's no understandable reason why someone might not be so enamored of the sports culture? Anyone who doesn't like sports is just a poor excuse for a human being?

Just because you aren't good at something [my italics], Fat Man, doesn't give you the right to call it wrong and hate on it so much.

This is not the reason Fat Man doesn't like sports.

Another reason you claim to hate sports is because bullies picked on you? Well BOO-HOO!

Your lack of compassion doesn't speak well of you.

You wouldn't have been such an easy target if you weren't so fat and out of shape to begin with. Stay in shape, and you won't be messed with. It's called survival of the fittest, and that's basic evolution.

You offer a pathetic defense of bullying. Bullying is a character flaw. There's no excuse for it.

But you probably failed biology class, didn't you? You seem to have the IQ of a dog. Fat Man is a disgrace to humanity.

Fat Man can be quite rude, as he once was to a decent Montana State football player who once posted here under the username of Andy. But you have started off being rude from the very beginning instead of doing the right thing. Try to be civil, please.

... and I Proudly will accept the title of Sports Bore. Better than being "Fat Man".

Not all sports fans are automatically assigned the title "Sports Bore." For example, last year a high-school football player posted in this forum under the username "SportsGuy92." Although he was a strong critic of this website, he was never given the title of "Sports Bore," but was given the title "Sportsman." What made the difference was that he made an effort to be civil and did not immediately begin insulting people he had never met before. (Incidentally, my functions as a moderator don't include the ability to assign titles or the ability to change avatars or the letter color of usernames.)

I'm also not the least bit homophobic and I'm secure in my sexuality, so that "Gay" jersey doesn't phase me at all.

You don't get the joke. I made reference to the sports subculture that is associated with some sports. One of the aspects of this culture is to misuse sports as a phony standard of masculinity and denigrate nonathletic boys as supposedly being effeminate wimps. Even today some people will automatically suspect that any boy who doesn't like sports should be suspected of having homosexual tendencies. Hence, the joke jersey, which was not my idea.

At the high school I went to, the jocks never bullied anybody.

How do you know? How could you possibly know? It's quite possible there was bullying you weren't aware of. You don't seem to be opposed to bullying, anyway.

That very well may have been true at your high school, but that doesn't mean it's true at every other high school in this country.

... and may God have mercy on your soul.

Oh, brother ... Considering your belligerence and the fact that you've expressed not the slightest sympathy for a man who has been diagnosed with PTSD (a man who was raped at the age of 17 in a mental institution by a homosexual inmate in his 40s), you should be concerned about your own soul. You're responsible for your own behavior, not Fat Man's.

Actually, you're not the most extreme of the angry critics of this website. You make some intelligent arguments, along with the personal insults. I disagree with Fat Man when he rants and makes hateful statements and engages in simplistic stereotyping. But to provide some balance, you should check out posts by Samdaman, an extremely hateful high-school football player who posted in this forum until he was banned in 2007. I wonder if you would find any of his comments to be offensive. I know that going back five years to read his posts might be a bit of a bother, but tell me if his attitudes are better than Fat Man's. Or are the Samdamans of this world to be exempt from any criticism because they love sports instead of "hating" them?

[Brigan]

[HUGE WALL OF IRRELEVANT TEXT + his Past]

Be prepared for a repetition grid of his past (irrelevant to your post)

As usual, you may go fuck yourself!

[Earl]

You wouldn't have been such an easy target if you weren't so fat and out of shape to begin with. Stay in shape, and you won't be messed with. It's called survival of the fittest, and that's basic evolution.

The more I think about this statement, the more it galls me. Wow ... Darwinism pressed into the service of "Blame the victim," a common response to the problem of bullying in the schools. There's a name for this ideology: social Darwinism. Standards of morality be hanged ... Bullying is natural. It's in the genes, some say. A society can survive only with alpha males (like Fit Man?). There's no room for anyone else. Man is nothing less than a glorified animal.

Well, Fit Man, if some guy bigger and stronger than you comes up to you and knocks your block off, I guess you won't complain. Survival of the fittest, you know.

As a Christian who doesn't believe in the theory of evolution, I believe that man was created in the image of God and is not merely a gloried animal.

Well, Fat Man, what do you think of Fit Man's application of the theory of evolution to the social conduct of human beings?

[Fat Man]

You wouldn't have been such an easy target if you weren't so fat and out of shape to begin with. Stay in shape, and you won't be messed with. It's called survival of the fittest, and that's basic evolution.

The more I think about this statement, the more it galls me. Wow ... Darwinism pressed into the service of "Blame the victim," a common response to the problem of bullying in the schools. There's a name for this ideology: social Darwinism. Standards of morality be hanged ... Bullying is natural. It's in the genes, some say. A society can survive only with alpha males (like Fit Man?). There's no room for anyone else. Man is nothing less than a glorified animal. Well, Fit Man, if some guy bigger and stronger than you comes up to you and knocks your block off, I guess you won't complain. As a Christian who doesn't believe in the theory of evolution, I believe that man was created in the image of God and is not merely a gloried animal.

Well, Fat Man, what do you think of Fit Man's application of the theory of evolution to the social conduct of human beings?

Well, most of the bullying, which actually came from some of my teachers and PE coaches more than the jocks, occurred before I got fat. When I was in grade school, I was not fat. I started becoming overweight after I was 13 years old.

So, Fit Shit Was being rather premature in his judgement of me before knowing all the facts.

Actually, if Charles Darwin were living today, he would be appalled by such comments made by Fit Shit because Darwin said that it was diversity within a species that improved that species chances for survival, and Darwin would be appalled by racism. He actually admired many of the primitive tribes that he encountered on his travels and he was also appalled by slavery. Over the years, people have taken what Darwin had said and twisted it around to justify their actions, and I'm sick of it.

People like to blame Darwin's theory of Evolution for all of these things, and while we're at it, we might as well blame the inventor of the steam engine because his invention eventually lead to trains which were used to carry people to the death camps, and we might as well blame the Wright Brothers because their invention of the airplane made it possible to bomb cities, and let's not forget to blame Isaac Newton for his laws of physics which made it possible to calculate the trajectories of missiles to their targets as well as planetary motions. And let's blame gravity for people committing suicide by jumping off bridges. And let's blame the engineers who built the bridges.

We humans are actually pathetic creatures by comparison to all the other animals on this planet. We lack the fangs and claws of predatory animals, we lack the speed and strength of the horse, and we are helpless after birth, so we humans should have been extinct a long time ago. We are pathetic, all of us!!!

We were the weakest creatures in the jungles going back about 150,000 years ago, yet, we managed to survive. So much for "survival of the fittest" when it's actually, the most adaptable that survive, not necessarily the strongest. The Neanderthals where much bigger and stronger than our ancestors, yet they became extinct, and our smaller, weaker ancestors survived. We almost didn't make it.

And our principles of morality was the result of the Evolution of mutual co-operation within a species because it was to the advantage of the species if they mutually co-operated with each other. That's why piranha don't eat their own kind.

I could go on and on!!!

Now, onto what Fit Shit had to say to me . . .

... and may God have mercy on your soul.

Oh wow! I just love this one! This has got to be my all time favorite!

In fact, I love this one so much, I would like to have the words carved into a fancy oak plaque and hung on the wall above my fireplace, if I had one.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard that one, which was usually accompanied by a beating.

Yeah, when ever I have dealt with some drooling moronic sports fanatic, they always have to drag God into it!

Uh huh! I guess I'm going strait to Hell, down into the Smokey Pokey to do the Hotfoot Dance for all eternity, which is billions upon trillions of quadrillion years just for being too fat and for not loving sports!

Glory, hallelujah!

Yeah! That's what I deserve for studying science, and Evolution, and not believing in a fairy tale about a man made from a lump of dirt, and a woman made from his rib, and how they were placed in an enchanted garden with a magical tree bearing magical fruit that they weren't suppose to eat, and were tempted into doing so by a talking snake with legs!

I guess I'm going straight to fucking Hell because I don't vote Republican, and I don't give 10% percent of my monthly income (that's 10% percent of the gross and not the net) to Pat Robertson's 700 Club in exchange for a small one inch square piece of silk cloth treated with holy oil.

And I'm going to Hell for being fat, and having a crippled up left knee.

But most of all, I'm going to Hell because I don't like sports!

Yeah! God have mercy on my soul!!!

Amen!

Religion has often been used to justify atrocities. Hitler, by the way, was NOT an atheist. He referred to God many times in his book Mein Kampf and he was actually a devout Roman Catholic.

So, religion as been used to justify wars (the Crusades) to justify slavery, and to justify torture.

Hey boys and girls!!! Can you say, Inquisition???

[Fit Man]

I see none of you got the reference of my quote of "may God have mercy on your soul". It's from Billy Madison, and I just changed the words around a little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

It's funny how Fat Man just made an ass out of himself for going on such a rant about religion just because I said "May God have mercy on your soul." lol Fat Man, who's the dumb shit now?

Also Earl, I have lurked the forums before and Fat Man never shows any respect to those who disagree with him on this site. As a result, I will "speak his language" and be douchebag right back at him. If he can't handle it, then let that little baby go cry to his mommy. I'm not going to hold his hand and hug him if I hurt his feelings, because he has brought this all upon himself.

And you're right, Brigan. Fat man has added virtually nothing new to the table. He just complained more and more about how he was bullied at school, and bases the experiences of just himself and thinks that all jocks are dicks because a few picked on him.

One new thing that Fatty did bring up, however, is the National Ranking in various subjects. Yes, I agree that the United States needs to work on that. I fail to see, however, how sports are the cause of this. I look forward to seeing your incoherent rambling of an explanation of how sports cause our students to fail in school. Remember, correlation doesn't equate causation.

In regards to the mandatory PE: I'm actually against it. It will just make people hate it even more if you force them to do it, which is counteractive to what it is hoping to achieve. It has good intentions, but it ultimately fails.

One thing I'd like to add is that baseball can be a fascinating and mentally stimulating sport when you truly understand it and all the strategy and ramifications of every single thing. How do you pitch to a power hitter? How about a speedy leadoff guy? How do you position the fielders with said batters? What pitch should you through in certain situations, such as you want to throw a sinker with less than 2 outs and a runner of first so you can force a GIDP. What count is good to try to steal a base? When is it a good time to intentionally walk a batter? When to do a squeeze play? Should you pull the starter if it's a 1-0 game in the later innings? Does this hitter match up well with the pitcher?

The point being, I can go on and on about baseball, my favorite sport. When you truly understand it, it's similar to a chess match (another game which I am fond of). Every single little change you make, your opponent will try to counteract that with something else, trying to get the 1 up on you. Most of this stuff goes way over the casual fan's head, who just thinks it "swing the bat and cross your fingers" hoping to get lucky type of thing. Regardless, just the swinging of the bat is a very fascinating thing that is much more difficult than you'd imagine. Look at my pic, it explains just the simplest part of baseball.

[Earl]

In regards to the mandatory PE: I'm actually against it. It will just make people hate it even more if you force them to do it, which is counteractive to what it is hoping to achieve. It has good intentions, but it ultimately fails.

We have an agreement!

At the risk of boring anyone (including you, Fit Man), let me repeat: I am not against exercise. I love working out at my health club, and I have a very good relationship with my personal trainer. Frankly, my health-club experience is even psychologically therapeutic. Developing my physique is giving me self-confidence I never had before. The point is that the reason why I have been opposed to "sports only" P.E. is not because I'm sedentary, but because the P.E. curriculum never addressed my own needs to be physically active in the way that was best for me. I should point out that there are P.E. programs that are far more "friendly" to nonathletes.

Unfortunately, I'm way past my bedtime. I'll have more to say tomorrow or Monday. This is a good way for me to end the day.

[Fat Man]

In response to Fit Shit:

You come into these forums passing judgement on me before knowing all the facts.

Also Earl, I have lurked the forums before and Fat Man never shows any respect to those who disagree with him on this site.

Actually, I don't disrespect everybody who disagrees with me. Me and Earl, we don't always agree on every topic, for example: He doesn't believe in Evolution while I do, but I have never insulted him because of it. We just simply don't agree. And I don't always agree with I_like_1981 or ChrisOH, or HugeFanOfBadReligion etc. etc. We have had our disagreements in the past on some details, but it never came to verbal blows or insults.

The reason I why don't have any respect for you, is because you are an . . . . .

ASSHOLE!!!

You assume that all of the problems I had with the bullying in school was because I was fat, when all this occurred before I became overweight.

The fact is, the problems I had in school were sports related.

In regards to the mandatory PE: I'm actually against it. It will just make people hate it even more if you force them to do it, which is counteractive to what it is hoping to achieve. It has good intentions, but it ultimately fails.

WOW! Amazing! You actually said something that both Earl and I can agree on. So, I guess you really do have at least two brain cells to rub together! But judging by the title of this topic which you had started, what you are proposing for me sounds pretty damn mandatory! You like to employ double standards which makes you a hypocrite and a fucking liar by the town clock!

Also Earl, I have lurked the forums before and Fat Man . . . etc. etc.

I see! So you registered to be on these forums, and you come here just for the sole purpose of getting on my case. Well, you're not the only one. You're not the first, and you probably won't be the last. There have been quit a few others over the past months. Gee! Nice to know I'm so popular and sought after! Kind of makes me feel sort of special! Sorry, but I never kiss on the first date, unless you want to kiss my fat ass! OK?

Oh! And that link you posted to the YouTube video. Can't you think of anything original to say, instead of repeating somebody else? I see that, you have been parroting the same words.

Yeah, like, AWK! POLLY WANT'S A CRACKER! POLLY WANTS A CRACKER! AWK! AWK! AWK!!!

You really are a bird-brain!

Well, actually, if you had a brain at all, you would have it bouncing up and down trying to shoot hoops!

Anyway . . .

Getting back to sports again . . . though I would rather not . . .

But here goes . . .

Some moron who can't read beyond the second grade level, our society puts him up on a pedestal to be adored and worshiped like a tin god, and he gets paid millions of dollars per year just for chasing balls.

I can teach a dog to do that!

But in the meantime, a physics professor or an astronomy professor in a university is lucky if he gets paid $80,000 to $100,000 per year.

Our priorities are totally fucked up!



As you can see, I really don't give a flying fucking Hootenanny in Hell about sports!!!

Oh, and any kid in school who has no interest in sports, gets called a "fag" but you seem to be OK with that!

If anybody here is a douche-bag, it's you!

And as for the baseball diagram you posted, well . . . . .

. . . pardon me sir, but I do believe that you must have me confused with somebody who gives a flying fuck!!!

Isn't it getting way past your bedtime, little boy???

You need to get up early tomorrow so you can get to church on time and sit in your favorite dark corner and masturbate with your crucifix and play with your beads!

Good night, and fuck off!!!

[Weltall]

In response to Fit Shit:
Actually, I don't disrespect everybody who disagrees with me.

disagrees with me.

ahem

Fatman. I have to add, those images about Santa, Fairy, and the Easter bunny are disturbing, we all know the truth about them, and portraying them like that serves no purpose, they are made for children to experience sillyness, joy, happiness, and cultivate good manners and goodwill, why would you put a bloody axe to them is beyond my comprenhesion and I actually find it disturbing.

(only some lines)
* Gee! You really are a moron!!!
* So, once again . . . . .FUCK YOU!!!
* You really are a fucking MORON!!!
* GO FUCK YOURSELF!

I guess people who don't insult you and merely disagree with you do get insulted, unless they are your friends.

[Fat Man]

In response to Fit Shit:
Actually, I don't disrespect everybody who disagrees with me.

disagrees with me.

ahem

Fatman. I have to add, those images about Santa, Fairy, and the Easter bunny are disturbing, we all know the truth about them, and portraying them like that serves no purpose, they are made for children to experience sillyness, joy, happiness, and cultivate good manners and goodwill, why would you put a bloody axe to them is beyond my comprenhesion and I actually find it disturbing.

(only some lines)
* Gee! You really are a moron!!!
* So, once again . . . . .FUCK YOU!!!
* You really are a fucking MORON!!!
* GO FUCK YOURSELF!

I guess people who don't insult you and merely disagree with you do get insulted, unless they are your friends.

I don't respect morons who believe in fairy tales either!

So, you found these to be disturbing, eh?

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Good!

Go sit in a corner somewhere, jack off, suck your thumb, and wet your pants!

I hope you have nightmares tonight!

Gee! I hope I don't get into any legal problems and get charged with cruelty and terrifying the retarded and feeble minded!

Nah! I don't care!

So, fuck off!

[Weltall]

I don't respect morons who believe in fairy tales either!
So, go sit in a corner somewhere, jack off and suck your thumb!

Me and Earl, we don't always agree on every topic, for example: He doesn't believe in Evolution

See the contradiction there? My belief in god is a fairy tale for you, so that gives you ground to insult me or whoever believes in those things? is there not freedom in religion or personal belief? more and more you look and behave like a bully.but whatever keep going with your hypocrisy

[Fat Man]

I don't respect morons who believe in fairy tales either!
So, go sit in a corner somewhere, jack off and suck your thumb!

Me and Earl, we don't always agree on every topic, for example: He doesn't believe in Evolution

See the contradiction there? My belief in god is a fairy tale for you, so that gives you ground to insult me or whoever believes in those things? is there not freedom in religion or personal belief? more and more you look and behave like a bully.but whatever keep going with your hypocrisy

No, I call you a moron not because you're religious but because you say . . .

they are made for children to experience sillyness, joy, happiness, and cultivate good manners and goodwill

No, it only inspires spoiled rotten brats from rich families to become greedy little gimme gimmes! Children in poor families don't get shit, so Jesus and Santa must hate the poor! Right?

Gee! Excellent way to teach your children good will and manners, by teaching them retarded moronic fairy tales.



And then they grow up to become Republicans who cry like big babies when they don't get their way.

[Weltall]

Unrelated stuff .

God, I won't delve into explaining the nonsense you just brought up, It has nothing to do with what I said before, and you always bring up unrelated stuff to justify yourself since you can't grasp the possibility of being wrong. and I'm not even from the USA to be talking abotu republicans and democrats, I don't even give a crap of my own country's politics, you always use unrelated facts to prove yours.

Again. The Holidays were created with good will, the easter bunny, Santa, etc. they were made up for the holidays, easter. Hey, Science made the Nuclear Bomb, capable of wiping the entire human race if a nuclear war breaks out, But does that that make Science bad or moronic? NO, so get your things straight in your head for once in your life instead of spewing crap at people

[Brigan]

de-railed reply.

I'm betting, they spoiled you the truth about Santa and the Tooth Fairy and now you hold a grudge agaisnt people who actually enjoy the Holidays.

I'm atheist and Scientific, Your claims of the holidays making spoiled children is crap, that depends on the discipline each parent applies to their kids, seeing if their kid gets a gift if he behaved good or bad.
NO I don't care if you had a bad Family. It's not the Point, If it was your Family that didn't love you, rape you, Etc. It was your family not the holidays, It's time you get over it, If you're mature enough to do it.

Gosh I starting to guess why your brother took all the trouble going to your neighbor house just to get a Shot gun, Maybe we should hear his side of the Story. (I.E. Stubborness)

For me you're a Bully. the thing you hate the most. Doubt it? see for yourself how you behave. you Hipocrit "Fat Shit", Because that's what you're full of it.

PS: that's your new Nickname. If you keep on with the name calling


Edit:

Oh! And that link you posted to the YouTube video. Can't you think of anything original to say, instead of repeating somebody else? I see that, you have been parroting the same words.

Yeah, like, AWK! POLLY WANT'S A CRACKER! POLLY WANTS A CRACKER! AWK! AWK! AWK!!!

You really are a bird-brain!

Oh you poor poor crazy Old man.... you're the one actually doing it!

I see! So you registered to be on these forums, and you come here just for the sole purpose of getting on my case. Well, you're not the only one. You're not the first, and you probably won't be the last. There have been quit a few others over the past months. Gee! Nice to know I'm so popular and sought after! Kind of makes me feel sort of special! Sorry, but I never kiss on the first date, unless you want to kiss my fat ass! OK?

Because unlike the rest of the Members of this Forum... you... as Fit Man stated.... "have your head stuck so far up your asshole you are just full of hatred and cannot think clearly."

[Fat Man]

Because unlike the rest of the Members of this Forum... you... as Fit Man stated.... "have your head stuck so far up your asshole you are just full of hatred and cannot think clearly."

Oh! So I'm suppose to love you all! I mean, you all love sports and you love the jocks, and you even get in line for a chance to sniff their jock straps, but I'm full of hate because I don't like the same things you all like, for example: sports.

And I'm suppose to love sports, and I'm suppose to love you guys! Right?

Hey! Why don't you guys show me some love? OK?

You can start by licking my boots and then, you can . . . . .

KISS MY ASS!

[Brigan]

Because unlike the rest of the Members of this Forum... you... as Fit Man stated.... "have your head stuck so far up your asshole you are just full of hatred and cannot think clearly."

Oh! So I'm suppose to love you all! I mean, you all love sports and you love the jocks, and you even get in line for a chance to sniff their jock straps, but I'm full of hate because I don't like the same things you all like, for example: sports.

And I'm suppose to love sports, and I'm suppose to love you guys! Right?

Hey! Why don't you guys show me some love? OK?

You can start by licking my boots and then, you can . . . . .

KISS MY ASS!

You see? who's talking about love? who's talking about loving us? or sports for that matter. it seems that you don't comprehend you own Language or you love Dodging / replying irrelevant nonsense when you're out of bullshit...

I'd say we won this. by default due to nonsense and single IQ replies by Fat Man

on the other topic I agree about the P.E. Earl, the only thing Obligatory P.E. acomplished is discouraging people toward an athletic career.